Descendants of William Pluck and Elizabeth Bayford
Origins
His origin is still a mystery. Possibilities are: [1] b 10 Sep 1787 in Wendens Ambo [Tree 8], son of Stephen Pluck and Mary Linsdell, or [2] 16 Nov 1800 in Fowlmere [Tree18], son of Thomas Pluck & Mary Pearce. Unfortunately, he appears to have died before September 1837 so there is no possibility of learning more from a death certificate (or a census).
It is also possible that he is related to the John Pluck [PL418] who heads Tree 15, perhaps a younger brother, or maybe a cousin. John was born in Arkesden in1803. Both families lived in the same Enfield parish of St Andrew.
Brief Notes
PL No |
Surname |
Forenames |
Notes |
| 3477 | ALEXANDER | Emma | C1861; C1871; C1881; C1891: she was in the Edmonton workhouse (domestic servant, widow). She was a widow (Emma Kirk) when she married Stephen. The marriage certificate records her father as William Alexander. Her previous marriage took place in Q2 1847, Edmonton 3 101, her husband was Edward Kirk who died in Q4 1860: Edmonton 3a 106. |
| 2417 | BAYFORD | Elizabeth | The 1851 census records that she was born in Bishops Stortford ca 1800. The 1819 marriage in Chingford, in conjunction with the 1800 baptism in Bishops Stortford, confirms her identity. Her parents were William and Elizabeth Bayford. |
| 3495 | CLARK | Eva | It seems likely that she remarried after the death of John in 1934: Eva Pluck=Charles Payne: Q2 1935, Edmonton 3a 2413. A likely death is: Eva Payne: Q1 1972, Enfield 5b, 49, born 29 Dec 1894. |
| 3499 | COLLIER | Ronald R | He died at the age of 24 less than two years after his marriage to Evelyn. |
| 2437 | DANEVILLE | Katherine | I can't find a birth in the GRO index. C1891: listed as Maria (presumably an error). C1901: listed as Kate. |
| 3494 | ELMES | Thomas | A possible birth in Edmonton in1878. |
| 2434 | HILL | Fanny Elizabeth | C1901 |
| 3507 | HILLIER | Deborah J | Unusually, Deborah Hillier and David Pluck appear to have married twice. The first occasion was in Q4 1981 in Swindon and the second was in Q3 1989. The most likely explanation for this is that they divorced at some time between these two dates. David was just turned 18 when he first married, and Deborah was probably of a similar age (there were two possible births in Swindon at this time: in Q1 1962 and Q2 1964 - both Deborah J Hillier). There don't appear to have been any children of this marriage. |
| 2423 | LEVRETT | Sarah | C1861; C1881 a widow, living in Edmonton with four of her children; C1891 living next door to her son James and his family. |
| 3475 | MILLINGTON | May Pauline | The GRO index has two names for the marriage record: May P MILLINGTON and May P LOWE. She was born May P Millington in Islington in 1915. She married Ernest A Lowe in Islington in Q3 1937, and then William L Goodman in Islington in Q2 1940. I have not been able to find out what happened to either of these earlier husbands. |
| 2430 | MILLS | Charlotte | Charlotte's entry in the 1901 census is interesting. She is living in Beale Street, Edmonton, a lodger in the house of John Richardson, together with her 16 month old daughter, Nellie. Charlotte was born in St Luke, Middlesex, and Nellie was born in Sydney, NSW. Charlotte is married and not a widow. Charlotte Mills, age 23 (i.e. b. 1864) from Middlesex, England, arrived at Brisbane from London, on 1 June 1887. |
| 2433 | MILLS | Nellie Pentney | Nellie was born in Sydney in 1889 but came to England early in life as she appears in the 1901 census. A UK Incoming passenger list for the Cuzco arriving in London in August 1897 from Melbourne has: Ellen Mills, age 37, wife; George Mills, age 10, son; Nellie Mills, age 8, daughter; Gladdys Mills, age 4, daughter and Eva Mills, age 2, daughter. Nellie's age fits but her mother's name does not, and there is also the question of what happened to Gladys and Eva. A Nellie Mills ttravelled to Australia on the 'Commonwealth' arriving at Sydney on 11 August 1911. Her stated age of 21 fits either girl. There is a family (resident in Australia) travelling from Brisbane to London on the Ormonde in 1920, arriving on 27 November: Vernon Mills, 39, joiner; Nellie Mills, 37; James Mills, 10; Nellie Mills, 5 and Eva Mills, 5. This is obviously not the same family, but the coincidence of names suggests a relationship. |
| 2440 | PLUCK | Ada | C1891; C1901. Three children known: Ada born in1913, Sidney in 1915 and Alfred in 1917. There were almost certainly others born between 1906 and 1911. |
| 2435 | PLUCK | Alice Rhoda E | C1901. Nothing found after 1901. |
| 2425 | PLUCK | Arthur | Born before his parents'marriage. C1861; not found in any post-1861 records |
| 2419 | PLUCK | Arthur William | C1851: a day labourer, living with his widowed mother in Ponders End; C1861: now married, a higgler. His marriage certificate (1858) is confusing as it records his father as Thomas Pluck, labourer. However, in 1861 he is living in Claremont Street, Edmonton, as are his married sister, Harriet, and her family. His place (Ponders End) and date of birth both fit. Arthur was illiterate and probably unable to spot the mistake. There is also a question mark over his death. I can not find the family in the 1871 census and Sarah was a widow in 1881. The only death that I can find in the GRO index was in Q1 1862. However, two of his children were born after his death, Steve in Q1 1863 (just feasible, but unlikely) and Mary Jane in Q3 1864 (impossible). A certificate is necessary to prove I have the right man. |
| 2443 | PLUCK | Arthur William | C1901 |
| 2436 | PLUCK | Charles Henry | C1901. Nothing found after 1901. |
| 2420 | PLUCK | Eliza | C1851: a silk winder, living with her widowed mother in Ponders End. She never married and (C1861-1891) lived most of her adult life with her married sister, Harriet, and her husband Henry Taylor. She worked in a rubber factory. |
| 2439 | PLUCK | Elizabeth Ellen | C1891 |
| 2418 | PLUCK | Emma | C1851: a weaver, living with her widowed mother in Ponders End. Her sister, Esther, was a witness at her marriage in 1855. |
| 2422 | PLUCK | Esther | C1851: a servant, living with her widowed mother in Ponders End. She gave birth to a daughter, (Esther Elizabeth) in the Union workhouse in April 1851. C1861, unmarried, a servant in the household of Edward (Officer, Great Northern Railway Co) and Emily Johnson. C1871: One of three servants in the household of James Pett, working as a nurse, presumably looking after his 78 year old mother-in-law (who was living on bank dividends). C1881: Cook in household of Walter Brydone, civil engineer, describes herself as a widow. C1891: now 61, widow, living on her own in Willesden, occupation: needlework (possibly shirt making). |
| 3480 | PLUCK | Esther Elizabeth | Born in the Union workhouse (her mother was not married). She was a witness at the marriage of her aunt Frances (together with George Raymond whom she subsequently married). On her marriage certificate her father was shown as William Pluck, presumably her deceased grandfather. A possible death in the Romford RD in 1916. |
| 2421 | PLUCK | Frances | C1851: a silk warper, living with her widowed mother in Ponders End. She married Robert White in 1866, witnesses were George Raymond and Esther Elizabeth Pluck. |
| 3479 | PLUCK | Harriet | No birth record found. Known from censuses; father identified on her marriage certificate. C1861: her unmarried sister, Eliza and her niece, Esther Elizabeth, are living with Henry & Harriet in Claremont Street. C1871: all four still living at Claremont Street: no change except that young Esther is now described as sister-in-law; Esther and Eliza are factory operatives. C1881: Eliza still with them (working in an India rubber factory), also 7 year old George Rayman, a nephew. C1891: Henry, now widowed, Eliza still working in the rubber factory, George Raymond now a stationer's assistant, together with Esther Raymond, aged 9. |
| 2427 | PLUCK | Henry | C1861, C1881 unm, ag lab.C1901. A possible death in the Romford RD in 1918. |
| 2426 | PLUCK | James | C1861, C1881 unm, labourer; C1891: with family living next door to his mother. C1901 |
| 2442 | PLUCK | James | C1901. Nothing found after 1901. |
| 2444 | PLUCK | John William | C1901 |
| 3471 | PLUCK | Joyce I | Joyce died aged 28. She and Leslie had a daughter, Janice, in 1947. |
| 3486 | PLUCK | Leslie J | There are two possible marriages: (1) to Pamela B Wilcox in Q1 1980 in the Havering RD, and (2) to Shirley A Donoghue in Q2 1985 in the Shepway RD. Two Leslie J Plucks were born in the 50s: (1) Q2 1957 in the Essex SW RD and (2) Q2 1953 in the Edmonton RD. There are children of both marriages: WILCOX: Wayne (1980) and Ricky Lee (1983), both born in Barking and Dagenham; and DONOGHUE: Barry Lee (Jul 1985), Dover RD, Craig Leslie (Jul 1985) Ashford RD and Laura Ann (Aug 1986) Ashford RD. Presumably Barry and Craig are twins but why they are registered in two different registration districts is a mystery. I am inclined to believe that "our" Leslie married Shirley Donoghue, since his sister, Kay, married in the Folkestone RD. But this is not proof. |
| 2438 | PLUCK | Mary Ann | C1891; C1901. Thomas born in 1912, Helen in 1914. Possibly others before 1911. |
| 2429 | PLUCK | Mary Jane | Arthur probably not her father. C1881 a jute weaver, unm. Her brother, Stephen, was a witness at her wedding. |
| 2441 | PLUCK | Rose | C1891; C1901 |
| 3476 | PLUCK | Stephen | At present his parentage is known only from the 1851 census. C1861: labourer, newly married; C1871: ag lab., living at Clarks Cottage, Edmonton; C1881: labourer, living in Silver Street, Edmonton. |
| 2428 | PLUCK | Stephen | C1881: unm, ag lab. C1891 unm, lodger, scaffolder C1901: he is married to Charlotte Mills, who has an 11 year old daughter (Nellie Mills) by a previous marriage. He also has two daughters listed, May and Lily Pluck, born in Edmonton in 1894 and 1896.There are no birth records for these girls, nor any record of a previous marriage involving Stephen. However there are two birth records which probably go some way to explain the situation: May Mills b. Q4 1893, Edmonton, 3a, 414; and Lily Mills b. Q1 1896, Edmonton, 3a, 449. He was a witness at his sister Mary Jane's marriage in 1885. See notes relating to his wife Charlotte Mills. |
| 2424 | PLUCK | Thomas | Birth not found in GRO index (known from 1861 census); however, he was born 3-4 years before his parent's marriage and his birth registration could be: Q3 1854, Thomas Leverett, Edmonton 3a 120. Not found in any post-1861 records. |
| 2416 | PLUCK | William | His youngest child was born in 1832. He doesn't appear in the GRO death index so was probably dead by Sep 1837. When his daughter, Emma, married in 1855 and his son Stephen married in 1861 their father's occupation was given as 'sawyer'. |
| 3482 | RAYMONT | George | Described as a carrier on his marriage certificate in 1872, and a city carman in the 1881 census when he and Esther were living at 5 Claremont Street with their 4 year old daughter, Eliza. The Taylors, and Eliza Pluck, were living at No 7. |
| 3483 | SMITH | Henry | A lighterman. His father, John Smith, was a wheelwright. |
| 3478 | TAYLOR | Henry | C1861: a carrier. |
